How Much Does Your Storage Cost, Part 2

by Administrator on April 19, 2008

Regular readers of this blog might recall a post made yesterday that included images of a four page quotation by a Network Appliance reseller to a prospective customer that contained a 65.5% discount off manufacturer suggested retail pricing.  The images are now gone and some of you might be wondering why.

The answer is simple:  the fellow who sent them to me, preferring to remain anonymous, may have been bound by a confidentiality agreement not to disclose the quote details.  While this language appeared no where on the documents sent to me, it is a common enough storage industry practice that I might be held liable for violating the non disclosure.

I could have wrapped myself in the flag of journalistic license, protected my sources, spent a lot of money on lawyers, and potentially spent time in jail for contempt of court, but I have chosen not to for three reasons. 

For one thing, the First Amendment and Shield Laws for journalists have not been conclusively applied to bloggers, and since this was written in my blog, and not in one of the columns I write for the trade press, I might not have had a legal leg to stand on in order to protect my source.

For a second thing, certain companies in this industry (storage) have been pretty quick to go to the legal mats to suppress antagonistic writers like myself.  Fighting lawsuits, whether frivolous or not, costs money that I would rather spend promoting the truth and consumer rights than buying my lawyers new cars (sorry, Sid). 

I just spent close to $2000 to engage my legal team to answer a complaint from a fellow who said that he owns the rights to the term “Green IT” and that the use of the expression on the Green Data Project was infringement.  Apparently, he has gotten the mark past the California trademark office and is seeking to trademark it in the Fed too!  He is also trying to trademark the color green when used on the text green.  Truth be told, he hadn’t an ice cube’s chance in Hades of making anything happen with his complaint, but legal fees mount up fast when responding to legal mail.

Thirdly, publication of the quote documents is not necessary to make the point that, if you preserve some leverage by not drinking the Kool Aid of a single vendor — as attractive as the “one stop shop” might seem at any given time, you can probably negotiate more effectively and get a better price.

No one likes feeling like they were screwed in a product purchase.  Publishing this quote may have made a few people angry, both on the vendor and on the consumer side.  The pages are gone, but the fact remains:  vendor MSRPs are the starting point in a negotiated deal, not the actual price that anyone with common sense would pay for tech.

While I appreciated the kudos that I had “guts” for publishing the quote, the fact is that I was may have been helping someone to obviate an obligation that they had incurred when accepting the quotation.  From where I’m standing, they had no reason to violate an agreement, unless it was to brag about getting a good price.  Pity that this also applies when a consumer finds out later that the vendor ripped him off.

Which brings me to my final point.  Why can’t the storage guys conduct business in the sunshine?  Why are there gag orders on consumers, not only prohibiting them from disclosing price quotes, but also the performance of the gear that they have purchased and are using in their shops?  How are we to get any closer to identifying the right storage at the right price to meet our application requirements when we are deceived by vendors and consumers can’t share their experiences without a veil of anonymity?

Some of you will shrug and say, “That’s just the way it is.”  From where I’m sitting, this is the sort of slippery slope thinking that is at the root of subprime loans, back dated options, and all of the other economic shenanigans that have contributed to tanking the economy. 

To those in the industry who seek to perpetuate the deal done behind closed doors, on behalf of America, I say, “Thanks a lot, guys.”  Hope there is a special place in hell for you. 

{ 5 comments… read them below or add one }

nickpt April 21, 2008 at 9:03 am

Plug:
Object Matrix have an open pricing policy with a shopping list generator on its front page this allowing potential customers to see up front what they can or cannot afford. Of course we are small fry and do not have 15 tiers of sales teams to support but surely its time for
transparency?
End Plug.

Jon, do not buckle. Pricing for most vendors is out there somewhere on the net.

wokthisway April 21, 2008 at 9:43 am

I’d be interested to know if they try to suppress pricing data when they sell to Gov’t shops. Any time they sell in the Gov’t sector that information is public info (theoretically). The pricing in the published contracts isn’t always all that much under MSRP and I’d think that the discounting would be fairly proportional to private sector sales.

Administrator April 21, 2008 at 9:54 am

You would think so, wokthisway, but 1) that isn’t always true, and 2) the pricing the US Gov gets is not necessarily the best price.

I have been casually following the trade press accounts of various vendors getting nailed for pricing shenanigans on their gear. Sun withdrew from federal contracting and IBM just got a yellow card. Apparently, the gov sourcing space is also rife with corruption, kickbacks, padded pricing, and other things that don’t help us with a meaningful price comparator.

No surprise there. Having worked at one time in the federal contracting side of a major integrator, I can tell you that there are is a lot of price gouging going on and a lot of ridiculous purchasing decisions being made.

I think that Clinton, and maybe Bush, tried to clean house, and there is an ongoing House committee investigation looking at contracts (which is bringing about some of the current vendor suspensions we are reading in the press), but I don’t honestly know if this has made things more or less sane.

Thanks for the idea.

Administrator April 21, 2008 at 12:58 pm

This just in via email…

We have seen NetApp get pretty aggressive recently (they waived $50,000+ of support renewal costs on 10 trays of 3 year old disk we wanted to keep while rolling over the head into a new 3 year lease + plus adding a 2nd head with disk for a remote site) but nothing that aggressive. I normally wouldn’t keep 3 year old disk for another 3 years but RAID DP is very good stuff (yeah, after 5 years I’m a believer as to the technology side ;-) .

March/April is always the best time of year to order with NetApp though as their end of fiscal year is April 31 (known secret basically that you should delay purchases until then….I wouldn’t be surprised if this quote was in that timeframe).

On the other hand, we haven’t really pushed too hard on negotiating prices as they’ve come inside our budget numbers for what we needed (usually discounting in the 30-40% range). In return, 2 times when we have been strapped and asked for a favor they/the vendor came through with some free stuff or heavily discounted (an NFS license in one case). A very amicable relationship overall.

Feel free to rephrase my comments if you like and publish them….just leave my name/company out if you don’t mind (we have a very good relationship with NetApp and our vendor which I’d prefer not to have to smooth over ;-) .

No re-phrasing needed. Thanks for the input. And for the record, the price quote previously published, then redacted, was from a small company and the quote was made in the January timeframe.

LeRoy Budnik May 2, 2008 at 9:59 pm

Jon,

It is essential for the guys to involve their CFOs. Often, within that club, they share in spoken words their experiences. Whenever it is transfered to the CFO, it introduces an unknown that is difficult for the vendors. To be most effective, the storage team makes sure that they include the requirements of the CFO’s office into their documents. Initial work is between the storage team and vendor, manager and vendor, eventually working up to the CIO. Then, the switch (a loss of authority to complete the deal.)

Try it.

Keep fighting.

LeRoy

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